The podcast host Kim interviews Chris Smith about vulnerability and communication in a digital age. Chris talks about how he used to be a computer scientist and how he predicted the dangers of cyber crimes. He wrote a book about his experience of being targeted by cyber criminals and the importance of being vulnerable and open in communication. Kim and Chris discuss the importance of clear communication and how misinterpretations can happen easily through digital communication channels. They talk about the lack of face-to-face communication and how important it is for better understanding. The episode ends with Chris mentioning the safety measures he takes after his experience and Kim thanking Chris for his time.